Tuesday 14 March 2006 5:28:42 am

Hello Daniel,

I am not aware about "the PHP framework". Do you mean the Zend framework perhaps?

Derick

Tuesday 14 March 2006 8:03:00 am

Hello Daniel,

Okay, that framework is something not done by the PHP team, but solely by Zend. We can hardly provide a non-biased opinion on this, so I wil try to explain what our major goals are.

We try not to be a fit-all framework as we believe that that restricts the creativity and is bound to create conflicts between the system and the developer as the system might do something in a different way then the developer wants. Instead the eZ components are released as a library of independent set of powerful tools that aid you developing your web application. We try to include components that are useful for real life and serious applications and we will extend the components with that in mind. The components should besides being useful also performant as that is something that we find very important too.

In the near future (1.1) we will also offer some components (URL) that help you with gathering information from URLs on top of which you can easily build your own MVC ideas.

Another important factor is that we have a rigorous testing schema where we have test cases for every method in our code base. Our development model requires the writing of test cases before any kind of implementation. We aim to improve stability with this.

A component library is not useful without good documentation, so documentation is another thing we focus on heavily. For each components bundle version there is separate documentation available through http://ez.no/doc/components/overview . We provide both tutorials to help you on the way with a specific component and thorough API documentation.

regards,
Derick

Tuesday 14 March 2006 11:46:53 am

Hello Daniel,

we've been talking in the past about collaborating but at that moment we were already almost done with the first release while they just announced it. The two libraries do not conflict so you can pick the best component for your specific needs from each of the libraries, or from other ones such as PEAR if you prefer. We also ship the components under the New BSD license because it gives our users the most flexible solution.

regards,
Derick

Tuesday 14 March 2006 12:06:50 pm

Hello Paul,

we can't use any of their code as it is under a GPL incompatible license.

regards,
Derick

Tuesday 14 March 2006 12:39:07 pm

Paul,

it is indeed the same license as PHP has (besides the name change) and that one conflicts with the GPL too. We tried to avoid this problem by picking the New BSD license for our components.

regards,
Derick

Tuesday 14 March 2006 1:02:47 pm

Paul,

(please beware that I am not a license expert)

no... ofcourse you can put PHP *code* (as in scripts, applications) under any license you might want to put it under. The scripts are not derivates of the PHP engine at all. It does mean that PHP can not be linked against any GPL library nor can PECL host any extensions that are under the GPL, or link against GPL libraries.

However, there are a couple of PHP scripts/applications and quite a few PEAR packages that chose to use the same PHP license. These scripts and packages can not be used with GPL applications without problems.

regards,
Derick