Thursday 03 January 2008 2:21:41 am

Hi, Marco Zinn
What access method did you use ?
Did you use .htaccess file ?

Monday 07 January 2008 2:57:18 pm

:-(
I don't get much further here with this installation.

What i found out:
- I can install a plain site with the wizard. The Admin site works fine then, while in der use site, the path to 2 CSS files are incomplete, but i reported this bug for 3.9 earlier. So, THIS works.
- I can NOT install the ezwebin or the ezflow sites
- I can import all packages of the sites
- I can install the site's extension during the installation wizard
- But at some point in installation the webin or ezflow Site, i get an Error 500 and cannot get any further. I guess, this is somewhere while running the install PHP scripts of the extensions
- I can install the site's class definitions from a ezflow package, after i did an installation with "plain" and importing the packages with the install wizard

- While i try to generate the extension's autoload configuration from the admin GUI -> Extensions, ez Crashes, no matter which extensions are active! "Fatal error: Class 'ezcFile' not found in /BLABLA/htdocs/lib/ezutils/classes/ezautoloadgenerator.php on line 283". ezComponents are not installed.

I'd like to try to install the ezflow SITE after installing with "plain". I think, just importing and installing all Packages for ezflow SITE does not work (is not sufficient) but i dont see a way to run the ezflow package PHP scripts. I don't have Shell access.

Any clues?

Marco
http://www.hyperroad-design.com

Tuesday 08 January 2008 2:44:10 pm

Hello,

i tried some more trying to install ez4+ezflow and managed to get some more debug output.

The only 2 messages, that i find in my Logfile are 2 warning about not finding base.php. I guess, this is from ezComponent, which are not needed, when i stick to the standard extensions (says ez.no)

"08 Jan 2008 23:30:42","/BLABLA/htdocs/autoload.php: 24","(Warning) include(Base/src/base.php) [<a href='function.include'>function.include</a>]: failed to open stream: No such file or directory"
"08 Jan 2008 23:30:42","/hBLABLA/htdocs/autoload.php: 24","(Warning) include() [<a href='function.include'>function.include</a>]: Failed opening 'Base/src/base.php' for inclusion (include_path='.:/usr/local/lib/php5')"

From the output, the general behaviour (not displaying parsing errors) and from PHPinfo, i'm sure, i have PHP 5.2.4.

Now, as this is a quite shared hosted environment, i think, i'm running out of script ressources, and then, Apache kills my PHP script (running as CGI) and gives me an error 500.
I tried to re-load the page several times (helped with limited ressources with ez3 earlier), but it does not work. I fear, that some part of the install script simple takes to much CPU ressources.
I can see, that i have 110 tables in MySQL with ezflow, as opposed to 108 with a plain installation. Also, the tables seem to have some good demo data, e.g. a class called "flash_recorder".

Now, my idea is to do a plain installation (which works) and install the ezflow packages manually afterwards through the admin interface and/or my importing a mysql dump (for the DB data).
But: Can anyone tell me, what the PHP installation script of the "ezflow site" package actually do? I will not be able to run them, so if they do something very important, i will need to mimic this manually.

Marco
http://www.hyperroad-design.com

Wednesday 09 January 2008 5:11:44 am

Hi Kristof,

hm, I feel, that the information about eZ Components being required is not consistent (and very confusing to me):
- The table "Required software" one page lists eZ Components (and PEAR) as required
- but the verbose documentation page says:
"When eZ Publish is installed, all class definitions of the eZ Publish kernel will have their paths listed in the "autoload/ezp_kernel.php" file. In addition, the "autoload/ezp_extension.php" file will contain an array of paths for class definitions that are a part of the extensions that come with eZ Publish. These arrays will most likely need to be updated in the future (for example, when you install new extensions or configure existing ones using the "Setup - Extensions" part of the administration interface). This requires eZ Components 2007.1.1 to be installed."

The 2nd paragraph lets me think, that i can install and use ez4 with the _bundled_ extensions (e.g. ezwebin, ezflow) _without_ eZ Components. I'm also very sure, that I have read exactly _this_ information on some ez4 download/requirements page earlier.

So, please, ez, can you please tell us, WHEN eZ Components need to be installed, and when there are not needed.

In other words: As eZ Components is not (yet) bundled with ez4... is the ez4 download package currently "incomplete", when i just want to use ezflow (or webin) ? I can't believe this is true. If eZ Components would be a requirements for ez4 with just bundled functionality, this would be quite a barrier: In the docs for Components, you recommend using PEAR through the command line, which is not possible for "simple hosting plans": Lots of users will not have Shell access. On the other hand, i do not find any documentation on how to install eZ Component for a new ez4 installation. Should one hack the index.php to include the include path and the autoload environment??

Marco
http://www.hyperroad-design.com

Wednesday 09 January 2008 7:46:44 am

Hi all,

maybe i need to apologize for writing verbose messages here. But i guess, other users, that want to do test installations on their webspace will encounter the same problems.

I didn't have the time nor the need to follow all the development of eZ 4 (and eZ Components), so i took my information from the ez4 download&documentation pages.

From the documentation I read at the time, when i downloaded the eZ 4 package, including ezflow, i understood, that eZ Components are not required, when i just install the bundled stuff.
I read http://ez.no/developer/news/ez_publish_4_0_0_and_ez_flow_1_0_released :
"Requirements
eZ Components
Before you install or run extensions other than those provided with eZ Publish 4.0.0, you must install eZ Components. (In the future we will bundled eZ Components with eZ Publish for your convenience). Refer to the documentation for instructions on installing eZ Components using PEAR."
As ezflow <i>is</i> an extension "provided with eZ Publish 4.0.0", i thought, eZ Components are <i>not needed</i>.
Also the section on "eZ Publish 4 autoload generation" (still) makes me think, that a fresh installation of the ez4 package with ezflow should be possible without the Components.

Well, i just wanted to do a temporary test installation of ez4 (+ bundled ezflow) without buying ezPublish-specific hosting (yet).

That was the reason for my trial installation.
Now i'll wait until installation ez4 on a shared hosting (for testing) will become possible. At the moment, it seems to be impossible, as eZ Components are required, but not yet bundled with eZ 4.

Hm, i wonder, how absolute ez-newbies handle this, without buying eZ publish specific hosting immediatly...

CU again in some months, when the ez4+eZC bundle is released.

Marco
http://www.hyperroad-design.com

Tuesday 01 April 2008 6:14:30 pm

This is one approach to testing out the new version of eZ on a shared server, where the default version of PHP is 4, but 5 is available by extension.

I'm sure there are several different ways to do this, options probably vary by server configuration, and this method has not been thoroughly tested, but eZ is up and running.

http://know-waste.com/2008/03/20/run-ez-4-0-on-a-server-with-php4-as-the-

I hope this is helpful.

With respect to kracker's mention of using properly configured hosting, I agree 100%. This idea is only for <b>testing</b>, in the event that the appropriate server resources are not available and you would like to experiment with eZ4.

Wednesday 02 April 2008 1:02:51 am

Hi

You are right, installing might work without eZ Components. However, you might get into the problem described here when enabling/disabling extensions. Also, there is the effect of enhancement http://issues.ez.no/11718 when eZ Components are not installed and so the autoload arrays can not be updated automatically, for ezflow for example. In this case, the fetch functions declared in these extensions will NOT work in each case as far as I can see, unless you update the autoload arrays by hand (reporting as an issue now:http://issues.ez.no/12787 ). The classes that ezwebin provides are currently by default in the autload file (although you might not be using it at all).

I also regret that PEAR is listed as requirement (here: http://ez.no/ezpublish/requirements), while it's not required at all. Neither eZ Publish or eZ Components require PEAR. PEAR is just a handy way to install eZ Components and to update it when new releases come out.

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