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Ez.no Forum: Please eliminate target="_blank"

Wednesday 01 October 2003 9:24:55 am - 7 replies

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Mark Scarbrough

Wednesday 01 October 2003 4:49:37 pm

Here, here! I use a tabbed browser, especially for tasks such as administrating my ezpublish site. The user site is in one tab, the admin site in another, and the documentation in a third. Having new windows pop all the time just screws up my workspace.

Paul Forsyth

Thursday 02 October 2003 1:40:56 am

I agree, but we live in an ie dominated world.

as ie is not going to be upgraded until microsoft release a new os (2005?) websites will have to start accomodating other people well before then...

paul

Alex Jones

Thursday 02 October 2003 7:02:32 am

I too use a tabbed browser - which for those of you who do not, it is as Mark has indicated, a beautiful thing for administration. I have set up Mozilla to have a group of sites in one bookmark, each of which opens a tab. So, I hit one button and the eZ forum is in one tab, the content administration is in a second tab, the admin cache screen is a third and the development site is the fourth. Very convenient! :)

I am glad to see that I am not the only one who has found the new windows annoying.

Alex

Alex
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<i>When in doubt, clear the cache.</i>

Mark Scarbrough

Thursday 02 October 2003 7:06:56 am

I suspect there may be a few ie users who find the new windows annoying, too, especially when the target is another peice of documentation on the ezp site.

Paul Forsyth

Thursday 02 October 2003 8:27:34 am

Tabs are lovely. I used to use opera before mozilla became really stable. I don't i could go back to a browser without them!

Slightly offtopic: Ez and tabbed browsing sometimes has problems. If you have forms on your page the node ids can become confused at times. For example, the common problem i hit at the ez.no site is when logging in. I sometimes open several forum entries at once and take my time reading each. When i try to login i am redirected back to a previous article, not the article i was at. I think this is due to some session information not being updated among the many tabs i open.

Hmm, can you fix this in css? Not sure if you specify a target in css, and omit it for mozilla? :)

paul

Alex Jones

Thursday 02 October 2003 9:54:53 am

I don't know of any way to set that up via CSS, and to be honest I don't think special treatment should be given to a browser in this case. I just ran a quick test:

In IE 6 on Windows XP I opened this thread in a new window (let's call it 'A').
I opened a new window ('B') and navigated to the Time Delayed thread.
I opened a third window ('C') and navigated to the Blog-Like Configuration thread.
I returned to 'B' and logged in and was promptly directed to the thread shown in window 'C' (Blog-Like).

As this confirms that it is indeed a session (last page visited is used for the redirect) issue, I think it should be changed for all browsers. I would think that the current URL could be passed to the redirect code instead ofrelying on sessions...

Alex

Alex
[ bald_technologist on the IRC channel (irc.freenode.net): #eZpublish ]

<i>When in doubt, clear the cache.</i>

Paul K Egell-Johnsen

Saturday 04 October 2003 7:25:43 am

I cant see any reason for using target="_blank". It isnt needed in IE, it isnt needed at all.

Opening new windows is counter to how for example explorer works. You click on a folder it opens in the current window. So, target="_blank" should be confusing to a novice and irritating for those who know what they want

I usually open things in a blank window myself, using rmb + up, down, up gesture in Opera. Thats usually done in a news site where I want the articles to be ready for reading when Im finished browsing the frontpage or latest news section.

When I want a new window or tab I request it.

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